Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
Click Here To Return To The Home Page
 
  HomeHelpSearch Merchandise DonateContactEvent CalendarLoginRegister  
 
Pages: 1 2 
What is the definition of "PROG" music? (Read 20,976 times)
 
BCofOZ
Life Seeker
****
Offline



Posts: 205
Emerald City Kansas
Gender: male
What is the definition of "PROG" music?
8th Dec, 2004 at 11:20am
 
I've been kicking this thought around for years.
I grew up listening to lots of stuff.--Mostly YES, GENESIS, MOODY BLUES, RUSH, PETER GABRIEL, ELP, PINK FLOYD, JETHRO TULL, KANSAS, etc.
Still do!!---Still growing up I guess.-lol

When I listen to this stuff with other people, I'm always asked "What kind of music is that?"
I tell them it's Prog and try to explain "Progressive Music".
Always turns into a snowball rolling towards hell!!--I can't say cuz I really don't the answer.
I've never heard any of the above mentioned bands refer to themselves as a Prog band.

I've heard many of one's thoughts on this matter.
Always sensible but exactly different opinions.
I consider that as a good thing as it never turns into arguement!!--BUT, it still doesn't explain what "PROG" is.

"PROG" isn't pop, soul, rap, jazz, classical, opera, blues, country, rock, and all of the others which I can't name!!-lol.

My opinion is that PROG is one of any or many combinations of the above mentioned musical forms.
It can all be great by design based on being able to get 3 or more musicians willing to mingle their thoughts and talents with disagreements, arguements, and egos set aside.
You can come up with some pretty good shtuff with so many options sitting out there.
Why is there not more of this?

I didn't realise how much good stuff that I've been missing until I crossed paths with S.A.!

My definition of "PROG" is: "It's what we uffing like!!"

What might your thoughts be on this?--I'd like to hear your opinions!!
Back to top
 
BCofOZ(Brent)  
IP Logged
 
ProgMaster
Stellar Owner
****
Offline


Stellar Attraction

Posts: 3,777
British Isles
Gender: male
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" mus
Reply #1 - 9th Dec, 2004 at 1:57am
 
Excellent question Brent which unfortunately isn't easily answered !!

If anybody has the time, I would recommend this link as a great resource to the points you have raised  :-

http://gepr.net/genre2.html

Later.

D.C.
Back to top
 

...
WWW WWW 5444228463  
IP Logged
 
bogl
Stellar Newbie
*
Offline



Posts: 6
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" mus
Reply #2 - 22nd Dec, 2004 at 5:06am
 
This is an interesting question (see Requests thread).  It varies so much, doesn't it?

Take Genesis, for example:

Genesis to "Lamb": prog, without a doubt.
Genesis post-Lamb...hmm.  Could be at times, still did ling songs well into career with themes, sections, etc.

Gabriel, on first album - yes v prog.
Gabriel on "So"...not convinced. 
When did he change??

Phil Collins solo - no way, never was remotely prog!

Hmm, the more I think about this the harder it gets...

bogl
Back to top
 

Five years ago I was a four-stone apology. Now I am two separate gorillas.
milborobogl  
IP Logged
 
nenes52
Stellar Newbie
*
Offline



Posts: 1
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" mus
Reply #3 - 25th Dec, 2004 at 6:10pm
 
searche groupe GENESIS, album FOXTROT
i am french, amateur music 60 & 70 Rock Clasique
& specifique Orzic Tentacles, Camel, Yes, Dream Teather
Floyd, mike Oldfield Zappa
( style Blues) Jimi Hendrix, BB king & Clapton
i am content station stellar and style musique
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
ProgMaster
Stellar Owner
****
Offline


Stellar Attraction

Posts: 3,777
British Isles
Gender: male
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" mus
Reply #4 - 25th Dec, 2004 at 9:28pm
 
Hi there Nenes and welcome to the Forum !!

Excellent selection of bands you have listed ...

D.C.
Back to top
 

...
WWW WWW 5444228463  
IP Logged
 
silver
Legacy Stellar DJ
*
Offline


At such speeds, things
fly

Posts: 607
Sunny Weymouth
Gender: male
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" mus
Reply #5 - 6th Jan, 2005 at 5:58pm
 
Just heard you play 'Paranoid Android' by Radiohead. Bloody excellent band.
Are Radiohead Prog? No.
Are Radiohead Progressive? Absolutely!!
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
ProgMaster
Stellar Owner
****
Offline


Stellar Attraction

Posts: 3,777
British Isles
Gender: male
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" mus
Reply #6 - 6th Jan, 2005 at 11:11pm
 
Glad you appreciate the 'Radiohead' Silver !!

Damn fine band who I hope to be playing more of very soon.

Back to top
 

...
WWW WWW 5444228463  
IP Logged
 
danrok
Stellar Moderator
****
Offline


Prog on...

Posts: 403
GB
Gender: male
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" mus
Reply #7 - 8th Jan, 2005 at 6:53am
 
Radiohead must be one of the best newish UK bands.
Back to top
 

...
WWW WWW danrok  
IP Logged
 
GG
Astral Traveller
**
Offline



Posts: 53
Gender: male
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" mus
Reply #8 - 26th Apr, 2005 at 9:43am
 
I myself think of progressive as a genre
created by the music industry
as a place to put bands that have a sound
that is so original that it defies categorization.

Many different people seem to have many different ideas
about what belongs in the progressive slot or not.
I have seen some crazy stuff categorized as progressive.
And the other way around.
Whatever...

To me personally there are five genres of music;
PRACTICALLY PERFECT, GOOD, OK, BAD and ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE! Wink
Back to top
 

...
WWW WWW  
IP Logged
 
Heracleum Mantegazziani
Stellar DJ
****
Offline



Posts: 1,641
Latitude 33°N/Longitude 117°W
Gender: male
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" mus
Reply #9 - 27th Apr, 2005 at 3:18am
 
Couldn't agree more GG! Grin Unfortunately most people uphold these stereotypes (round pegs in square holes!!)
I am more often asked 'What kind of music do you like' - as opposed to what music do you like.
 To me- the "Progressive Label" is and always will be a broad brush that covers many traditional genres.  I think creativity and  originality are the only prerequisites for a music to be progressive to me.
 I guess then, progressivity is in the ear of the behearer! Cheesy
-btn
Back to top
 

bottled in a strong confession, my distortion shows obsession
 
IP Logged
 
zenpool1
Stellar Newbie
*
Offline



Posts: 8
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" mus
Reply #10 - 15th May, 2005 at 8:06am
 
agree GG (hello everyone)!

so...progressive the noun vs. progressive
the verb. Grin

at the time, we didn't think of  led zep or the who
as being different from yes, pink floyd, mahavishnu
or even... deep purple for that matter.

college radio programmed music like gil-scott heron,
the chambers bros., vangelis, tomita between the
"classic art rock".

my philosophy has always been "genres are for
record stores".

p e a c e
kirk


Back to top
 

IOMA award
 
IP Logged
 
proghead2112
Stellar Newbie
*
Offline



Posts: 11
Paducah Kentucky
Gender: male
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" music?
Reply #11 - 29th Nov, 2006 at 5:36pm
 
OK this is an old tread but I will throw my thoughts out there on what Prog is. First off, its not made by bands who are seeking the 3:30 airplay song. Some such as "Yes" and others do make the main billboard charts but not at the expense of selling out the genre. I always think of Prog as a wide range of music that has no real rules or template in construction. hardley ever follows a verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus. Certaily it lends itself to frequent time signature, tempo and key changes within a song. Many times the songs will follow the soul or feel of the subject closer than can be expressed than top 40, county and others (blues being and exception). When telling people about progressive rock, I usually say "if Mozart were alive today playing rock, Prog is what you would get."

Perhaps that was not well expresed, but that is my thoughts on Prog. I may not know how to describe it, but I know it when I hear it.
Back to top
 

Its a small world, but i wouldn't want to paint it.
WWW WWW  
IP Logged
 
Landy
Stellar Newbie
*
Offline


"Be yourself, or live
the fantasy within"

Posts: 47
Gender: female
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" music?
Reply #12 - 23rd Feb, 2008 at 7:20am
 
What groups are considered, Prog Rock? Excellent question! I am always pondering this question, and wonder if some of the other music I listened to in the 70's would also be considered, Prog Rock, such as Queen, Led Zeppelin, Bad Company, for example. What are your thoughts? Is there any type of written list which specifies the groups which are considered Prog Rock?

Landy
Back to top
 

...
 
IP Logged
 
pno74
Stellar Patriot
****
Offline



Posts: 460
Valjouze (France)
Gender: male
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" music?
Reply #13 - 23rd Feb, 2008 at 2:46pm
 
I don't know exactly, Roll Eyes

But at www.progarchives.com  you can have an idea,  there's also some categories of prog rock Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Mines are for example psychedilic prog rock, neo prog rock, and space prog rock, and also hard prog rock ( spécialy because of John Petrucci Wink )

Smiley Smiley
Back to top
 

What would life be without SA ??? Please donate to keep it up for years and years   Wink
 
IP Logged
 
pno74
Stellar Patriot
****
Offline



Posts: 460
Valjouze (France)
Gender: male
Re: What is the definition of "PROG" music?
Reply #14 - 23rd Feb, 2008 at 2:53pm
 
I also forgot symphonic prog rock Shocked Shocked

Back to top
 

What would life be without SA ??? Please donate to keep it up for years and years   Wink
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 
Bookmarks
Facebook Twitter del.icio.us Google reddit Digg Linked in MySpace StumbleUpon Yahoo