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Reply #45 - 27th Mar, 2005 at 5:36am
 
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Thanks for the feedback.

I definitely think it's a good idea to add some of the newer tracks to the regular playlist. I was particularly impressed by Arena.

Unfortunatley I believe the problem is what people expect of prog/progressive rock. So many people think it is only the classic bands of the seventies; Yes, Genesis, ELP etc who qualify. To many people, bands like Radiohead are an indie band, or Tool a metal band, and don't belong on this kind of station. I think it's a difficult one to call as what is supposed to be prog isn't usually progressive anymore in the true sense of the word.

Keep up the good work.

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Thanks Silver - I couldn't agree more  Grin

Whilst groups such as 'Radiohead' have always distanced themselves from being placed under the 'Prog Banner' it is still undeniable that a lot of their material appeals to fans of other more 'established' acts. The same can also be said of a great deal of other 'newer' acts. 'Arena' being another excellent example.

Again, a lot of the more recent acts do have a 'heavier' edge in their music which can (I suppose) 'scare-off' some regular listeners. The notable acceptance of 'Dream Theatre' to the Prog fold - whose main 'Prog credentials' seem to be their support slot for 'Yes' on tour in the States a couple of years ago.

A large number of listeners find 'Stellar Attraction' by simply browsing through the 'Internet Radio Yellow Pages' where it is advertised as a 'Progressive Rock Radio Station'. These (first time) listeners having tuned-in last night were probably expecting the usual fodder of ELP, Yes, Pink Floyd et al, may well have tuned-out when confronted by the likes of 'Tool' and 'Pallas'.

Like I have said, this 'session' will have a re-run soon and in the meantime, future playlists will include more recent releases and contemporary 'Prog' groups.

Cheers.

Dee
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Reply #46 - 27th Mar, 2005 at 5:56am
 
- I listened for about 6 hours and fell asleep then got up about 4 hours later and tuned in /and it was Older Yes

so I have been tuning in since then on and off

I was pretty exceited myself about this one and I thought it was going great

a few small changes I might make but nothing that really would detract from the overall job you did
I guess maybe if you started from 1995 on
maybe youd get a wider mix of music too work with
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Reply #47 - 27th Mar, 2005 at 2:04pm
 
My apologies that I did not listen to this 24 hour block.  While I'm open to new possibilities (and have found that Marillion is now regularly on my playlist), I still am a bit reserved about new tunes versus older ones.  I have heard some played during normal programming in the past, and found that they were mostly not matching my taste.

Baby steps though!  I'll accumulate more new bands as I listen to them on a normal basis (a 24 hour block may a bit too much for me!)

Just thought I'd give my feedback on that.  I don't know if it represents more than myself.
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Reply #48 - 27th Mar, 2005 at 3:38pm
 
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks!




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Reply #49 - 27th Mar, 2005 at 5:26pm
 
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While I'm open to new possibilities (and have found that Marillion is now regularly on my playlist), I still am a bit reserved about new tunes versus older ones.  I have heard some played during normal programming in the past, and found that they were mostly not matching my taste.

Baby steps though!  I'll accumulate more new bands as I listen to them on a normal basis (a 24 hour block may a bit too much for me!)
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On the basis of what you have said I would say you are more of a traditional prog rock fan. In which case, newer bands for you check out (and it's good to see Marillion on your own playlist) that may appeal to you would include: IQ, Spocks Beard, Arena & The Flower Kings. If you like Pink Floyd then try the Porcupine Tree album 'The Sky Moves Sideways'.

Having said all that I think we have all suffered from the "If you like this band then you'll love this band" syndrome (and often unsuccessfully) at some point, but the main thing is to keep an open mind and give things a try. We can't like everything, but there is good new music being made.

One of my all time favourite bands is Yes. If you take their first 5 albums you can see a band developing and experimenting and yes, progressing. But after Close to the Edge have they progressed? Answer this honestly. They continued to produce, and still do, quality music (Relayer, Going for the One, Magnification), but they don't push the boundries like they did in the early seventies. But I don't love them any less for it!

A band I can't seem to get into are Gentle Giant no matter how much of their music I hear. For some reason it just doesn't click with me. So for all of us there is good and bad music, whether it's old or new.
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Reply #50 - 29th Mar, 2005 at 11:43am
 
I've tried Spock's Beard to no success... I'll check out these other ones though.  Thanks. Smiley
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Reply #51 - 31st Mar, 2005 at 3:26am
 
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One of my all time favourite bands is Yes. If you take their first 5 albums you can see a band developing and experimenting and yes, progressing. But after Close to the Edge have they progressed? Answer this honestly. They continued to produce, and still do, quality music (Relayer, Going for the One, Magnification), but they don't push the boundries like they did in the early seventies. But I don't love them any less for it!
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I would say honestly that Yes progressed continually until about the time of Abwh-Talk 
but still made great music up til now
There are pieces like That That Is  or mind drive
that still were Progressive , in the prescense of
and several cuts from the ladder
I certinly take issue with the statement
especially where Relayer- Tales From Topographic oceans - and Tormato are concerned
Yes progressed to more of a Rock Sound
but still employed alot of prog features during the time Trevor Rabin was playing with them .

true enough on keys -ladder -and Mag
there are some weak songs

but the first two Yes Albums were only about Half good each
I certinly prefer Mag-the ladder-Tales- Relayer-and keys
over YES and Time and A word

I deleted the rest of your Quote because I agree totally with your opinions of the other bands

on a similar note
I never thought of Dream Theater as being a Prog Band -in fact I hate them with a passion
but I do like gentle Giant and Marrilion -Ptree and IQ
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Reply #52 - 31st Mar, 2005 at 3:35am
 
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My apologies that I did not listen to this 24 hour block.  While I'm open to new possibilities (and have found that Marillion is now regularly on my playlist), I still am a bit reserved about new tunes versus older ones.  I have heard some played during normal programming in the past, and found that they were mostly not matching my taste.

Baby steps though!  I'll accumulate more new bands as I listen to them on a normal basis (a 24 hour block may a bit too much for me!)

Just thought I'd give my feedback on that.  I don't know if it represents more than myself.

I certinly prefer the older music -however saying that ;I own it all so I dont really care if I hear alot of Elp or tull or whatever
because I can put the old lps or the new Cds on anytime
My interest in this marathon was to widen my musical horizons 
because I am pretty tired of "still you turn me on"
I am exceited that groups like Mars volta  and Ayreon etc are out there still trying to do prog
though I gennerally like to keep my metal and prog seperate
and prefer mellotrons to insane Arpeggos on the strat.
I still like to think that I am not so much stuck in a rut that I cant listen to something different
How else will I know if I like it
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Reply #53 - 31st Mar, 2005 at 3:42am
 
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Thanks Silver - I couldn't agree more  Grin

Whilst groups such as 'Radiohead' have always distanced themselves from being placed under the 'Prog Banner' it is still undeniable that a lot of their material appeals to fans of other more 'established' acts. The same can also be said of a great deal of other 'newer' acts. 'Arena' being another excellent example.

Again, a lot of the more recent acts do have a 'heavier' edge in their music which can (I suppose) 'scare-off' some regular listeners. The notable acceptance of 'Dream Theatre' to the Prog fold - whose main 'Prog credentials' seem to be their support slot for 'Yes' on tour in the States a couple of years ago.

A large number of listeners find 'Stellar Attraction' by simply browsing through the 'Internet Radio Yellow Pages' where it is advertised as a 'Progressive Rock Radio Station'. These (first time) listeners having tuned-in last night were probably expecting the usual fodder of ELP, Yes, Pink Floyd et al, may well have tuned-out when confronted by the likes of 'Tool' and 'Pallas'.

Like I have said, this 'session' will have a re-run soon and in the meantime, future playlists will include more recent releases and contemporary 'Prog' groups.

Cheers.

Dee

well again I love tool alot but what they have in common with Prog bands escapes me
I cant stand Radiohead or Brian Eno or most of wakemans solo stuff -for that matter a good bit of Mike oldfield sounds the same to me .I think that others certinly disagree and so I dont mind if they are indulged as well
I can allways tune out
and come back later
I will be Glad to see this session return as I have found many new Bands/artists that I like as much as the old Porcupine Tree being my Favorite

I think a good mix of the old and new is the way to go
and your doing it well -and allways fine tuning what you do for your audience as much as your "Prog format"
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