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Reply #1905 - 30th Aug, 2008 at 10:11am
 
Dan Joy wrote on 30th Aug, 2008 at 6:44am:
Currently playing track:
Yes - Close To The Edge


I've been listening to this [awesome, classic] track here at home lately, on basically the same system, and it definitely sounds better sourced from your stream than from my disc drive...that software you've got is just the bomb!




Yes it seems that the sound is better than last year (or its me ...).

Dee, perhaps there is some new improvements for the sound quality  ?



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Reply #1906 - 30th Aug, 2008 at 10:13am
 
Marillion with Fish, Waters  ,

Smiley Smiley

Godd session this morning !
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Reply #1907 - 30th Aug, 2008 at 10:16am
 
Porcupine Tree - Lazarus

Smiley Smiley

This station is a real      happiness !!

Many thanks Dee !

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Reply #1908 - 30th Aug, 2008 at 11:23pm
 
Dan Joy wrote on 28th Aug, 2008 at 11:14pm:
Hey, Darran! Through a series of plumbing problems and computer problems here I have nonetheless enjoyed this afternoon's live Yes, live Genesis, as well as the Mainhorse, classic Chris Squire and classic Jethro Tull tracks--thanks!


No problem, Dan. Glad you enjoyed them !! Cool
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Reply #1909 - 30th Aug, 2008 at 11:33pm
 
Dan Joy wrote on 30th Aug, 2008 at 6:44am:
Currently playing track:
Yes - Close To The Edge


I've been listening to this [awesome, classic] track here at home lately, on basically the same system, and it definitely sounds better sourced from your stream than from my disc drive...that software you've got is just the bomb!



Delighted that you think so, Dan.

Indeed, the sound quality of the music broadcast should be (at the very minimum) as good as a regular MP3 file of the same bit-rate played on your own PC. Hopefully, it should sound better than this - considerably better, as at the 'Engine Room' of S.A. is the industry standard
SAM
Media Server software. The music that is broadcast is passed through an extremely advanced AGC Gateway (which is part of SAM), amongst other filters such as an EQ - this processes each and every track played. The end result being that it shouldn't either blow your speaker system up nor be too quiet. Also, the music (hopefully) shouldn't sound 'over processed', either.

Since the upgrade to SAM version 4.3.6, the MP3 encoder is now of an even better quality than before and of course, if you're tuning-in to the AAC+ 32 kbps stream, this will sound a lot better than the old MP3 32 kbps stream. This is totally due to the format change - AAC+ being of a far better audio quality than MP3, especially at low bit rates.

Enjoy !!

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Reply #1910 - 30th Aug, 2008 at 11:36pm
 
pno74 wrote on 30th Aug, 2008 at 10:16am:
Porcupine Tree - Lazarus

Smiley Smiley

This station is a real      happiness !!

Many thanks Dee !



Great to hear that you're enjoying the music, pno. More CDs are being added to the database as I speak ... Cool
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Re: What is playing now ?
Reply #1911 - 30th Aug, 2008 at 11:57pm
 

pno74 wrote on 30th Aug, 2008 at 10:16am:
This station is a real      happiness !!


That's well put and I couldn't agree more!
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Reply #1912 - 31st Aug, 2008 at 12:11am
 
ProgMaster wrote on 30th Aug, 2008 at 11:33pm:
Indeed, the sound quality of the music broadcast should be (at the very minimum) as good as a regular MP3 file of the same bit-rate played on your own PC. Hopefully, it should sound better than this - considerably better, as at the 'Engine Room' of S.A. is the industry standard
SAM
Media Server software. The music that is broadcast is passed through an extremely advanced AGC Gateway (which is part of SAM), amongst other filters such as an EQ - this processes each and every track played. The end result being that it shouldn't either blow your speaker system up nor be too quiet. Also, the music (hopefully) shouldn't sound 'over processed', either.

Since the upgrade to SAM version 4.3.6, the MP3 encoder is now of an even better quality than before and of course, if you're tuning-in to the AAC+ 32 kbps stream, this will sound a lot better than the old MP3 32 kbps stream. This is totally due to the format change - AAC+ being of a far better audio quality than MP3, especially at low bit rates.


I'm using the 128 kbps Broadband Stream. Generally this is sounding noticeably better (without, as you mentioned, sounding excessively processed) than playing the commercially-released CDs of the same tracks from an external disc drive through the same computer using the same speakers and the same software, usually Windows Media Player, that I use to get the stream. Sometimes I'll tweak the equalizer provided by Windows Media Player for my CDs, but I'll generally leave it flat, although on, for your stream.

What you are telling me amazes me -- you're actually converting these tracks to MP3 (if I've got that right) and it sounds better than the original CDs do with the same computer, same software (here on my end), and same speakers.

I'm flabergasted by that! MP3s BETTER than the original CD audio? Have I got something wrong here?
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Reply #1913 - 31st Aug, 2008 at 6:38am
 

Currently playing track:
Germinale - Battaglia Per il Sampo (The Battle For The Sampo)
Coming up: Aardvark - Uusi Kantele (New Kantele)
Last five tracks played      
Grand Stand - Stormen (Tempest)
Cantina Sociale - Kantele      
Qadesh - Ilmarien's Fruitless Wooing

Really enjoying these tracks from the KALEVALA project--even though I just listened to this, the 3rd disc of the set, here at home before tuning in to the SA stream! A bit of a coincidence, but more evidence that the same material sounds better coming from your stream that out of my system! At any rate, tracks well worth hearing twice in one evening....can't over-recommend the new re-release of the KALEVALA set to other SA listeners!

Ordering from the link below got me the new remaster + bonus track & art at $29.48 plus $3 shipping! -- about $10 per disc, not bad for a (French) import!

http://www.caiman.com/Caiman/details.cfm?ASIN=B001AI7KGS



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Reply #1914 - 31st Aug, 2008 at 9:26am
 
Curved Air - Live

The sound has a "harder" edge to it in comparison with the studio recordings.
Someone commented that Sonja's vocals are akin to Peter Hammill's - I know what they mean !!!
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Unfortunately "Back Street Luv" was announced but not played ... maybe next time ?

Another great addition !
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Reply #1915 - 31st Aug, 2008 at 7:31pm
 
*Fish - Shadowplay (Live)*

Superb concert from Fish!And of course more new music at SA!



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Reply #1916 - 31st Aug, 2008 at 10:00pm
 
Dan Joy wrote on 31st Aug, 2008 at 12:11am:
ProgMaster wrote on 30th Aug, 2008 at 11:33pm:
Indeed, the sound quality of the music broadcast should be (at the very minimum) as good as a regular MP3 file of the same bit-rate played on your own PC. Hopefully, it should sound better than this - considerably better, as at the 'Engine Room' of S.A. is the industry standard
SAM
Media Server software. The music that is broadcast is passed through an extremely advanced AGC Gateway (which is part of SAM), amongst other filters such as an EQ - this processes each and every track played. The end result being that it shouldn't either blow your speaker system up nor be too quiet. Also, the music (hopefully) shouldn't sound 'over processed', either.

Since the upgrade to SAM version 4.3.6, the MP3 encoder is now of an even better quality than before and of course, if you're tuning-in to the AAC+ 32 kbps stream, this will sound a lot better than the old MP3 32 kbps stream. This is totally due to the format change - AAC+ being of a far better audio quality than MP3, especially at low bit rates.


I'm using the 128 kbps Broadband Stream. Generally this is sounding noticeably better (without, as you mentioned, sounding excessively processed) than playing the commercially-released CDs of the same tracks from an external disc drive through the same computer using the same speakers and the same software, usually Windows Media Player, that I use to get the stream. Sometimes I'll tweak the equalizer provided by Windows Media Player for my CDs, but I'll generally leave it flat, although on, for your stream.

What you are telling me amazes me -- you're actually converting these tracks to MP3 (if I've got that right) and it sounds better than the original CDs do with the same computer, same software (here on my end), and same speakers.

I'm flabergasted by that! MP3s BETTER than the original CD audio? Have I got something wrong here?


Indeed, you're pretty much correct here, Dan.

The albums and tracks which are on the S.A. database have been converted from the original CD into MP3 format. I use the excellent
Nero
software suite to convert CDs to MP3. They are converted to MP3 at a minimum bitrate of 192 kbps. These then make up the source files that SAM uses and as mentioned above, are passed through a number of different settings before being streamed, with the AGC Gateway being the most important.

The end result being that the audio should be of an excellent quality - bearing in mind that SAM isn't exactly cheap ... but certainly worth it if you're running an Internet Radio Station. Wink Cool

In an ideal world, the source files on the database would be in a lossless format - PCM or WAV - but this is purely due to storage constraints. As an idea, the current database stands at around 200 GB of data in MP3 format, I won't even become to speculate as to how large it would be if the files were in a lossless format. Only to say that it would be very, very large indeed !! Shocked

All of the above (and much more information) will be made available in the FAQ which is around 75 % complete at the time of writing this post.
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Reply #1917 - 31st Aug, 2008 at 11:56pm
 

Thanks for the 411, Darran! Looking forward to the FAQ.
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Reply #1918 - 1st Sep, 2008 at 12:40am
 
good to hear some Gryphon here.


thanks for the info D.Interesting stuff. Smiley
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Reply #1919 - 1st Sep, 2008 at 7:18am
 
Greenslade - Three Brides
Greenslade - Glass
Greenslade - Beltempest
Greenslade - Moondance
Greenslade - Intro

Good Lord, these Greenslade tracks (from Pentateuch of the Cosmogony) sound GREAT! MUST ACQUIRE ALBUM! MUST ACQUIRE ALBUM! MUST ACQUIRE ALBUM!

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